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	<title>Comments on: Pirated Screeners&#8230;your &#8216;Christmas&#8217; update. Brought to you by&#8230;. The Studios!</title>
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		<title>By: jesus</title>
		<link>http://williamsager.com/2007/12/22/pirated-screenersyour-christmas-update-brought-to-you-by-the-studios/#comment-63</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[torrent sites DO NOT get their &quot;source files primarily from newsgroups&quot;. that&#039;s BS. newsgroups are not &quot;first&quot;. newsgroups have always been an afterthought. &quot;scene&quot; releases appear first on the group&#039;s topsite (ftp), and then fxp&#039;ers with topsite access begin to spread the rls down the line to 0day sites (ftp). and eventually they find their way to newsgroups, IRC channels for DCC bots and torrent sites.

recently, however, more and more 0day torrent sites are popping up. most are private and the only way to get access is an invite (if at all). these sites, for the most part, stick to the scene rules and have taken the place of many ftp 0day sites. they get their releases much faster than any newsgroup, p2p or irc channel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>torrent sites DO NOT get their &#8220;source files primarily from newsgroups&#8221;. that&#8217;s BS. newsgroups are not &#8220;first&#8221;. newsgroups have always been an afterthought. &#8220;scene&#8221; releases appear first on the group&#8217;s topsite (ftp), and then fxp&#8217;ers with topsite access begin to spread the rls down the line to 0day sites (ftp). and eventually they find their way to newsgroups, IRC channels for DCC bots and torrent sites.</p>
<p>recently, however, more and more 0day torrent sites are popping up. most are private and the only way to get access is an invite (if at all). these sites, for the most part, stick to the scene rules and have taken the place of many ftp 0day sites. they get their releases much faster than any newsgroup, p2p or irc channel.</p>
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		<title>By: William Sager</title>
		<link>http://williamsager.com/2007/12/22/pirated-screenersyour-christmas-update-brought-to-you-by-the-studios/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Sager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone-

If so I stand corrected. But most new newsgroup release files are divx, xvid (divx backwards btw) or .avi files. Not &#039;torrent&#039; file extensions. But perhaps the uploaders transcode the torrent files to these primary file extensions before uploading to newsgroups. Just not 100% sure.
~b.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone-</p>
<p>If so I stand corrected. But most new newsgroup release files are divx, xvid (divx backwards btw) or .avi files. Not &#8216;torrent&#8217; file extensions. But perhaps the uploaders transcode the torrent files to these primary file extensions before uploading to newsgroups. Just not 100% sure.<br />
~b.</p>
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		<title>By: intersting...</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[intersting...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, most torrent seeders are somehow affiliated with the scene releasers, and have access to ftp topsites and/or dumps.... many times brand new torrents will show up before they hit usenet... someone has to upload to usenet, why not do a torrent instead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, most torrent seeders are somehow affiliated with the scene releasers, and have access to ftp topsites and/or dumps&#8230;. many times brand new torrents will show up before they hit usenet&#8230; someone has to upload to usenet, why not do a torrent instead?</p>
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		<title>By: William Sager</title>
		<link>http://williamsager.com/2007/12/22/pirated-screenersyour-christmas-update-brought-to-you-by-the-studios/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Sager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone-

Yes, I have heard of torrents - especially Bit Torrent. I have not used any P2P software to date, however, even Torrent uploaders get their source files primarily from the newsgroups first. ~b.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone-</p>
<p>Yes, I have heard of torrents &#8211; especially Bit Torrent. I have not used any P2P software to date, however, even Torrent uploaders get their source files primarily from the newsgroups first. ~b.</p>
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		<title>By: SOMEONE</title>
		<link>http://williamsager.com/2007/12/22/pirated-screenersyour-christmas-update-brought-to-you-by-the-studios/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SOMEONE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever heard of torrents?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of torrents?</p>
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		<title>By: no</title>
		<link>http://williamsager.com/2007/12/22/pirated-screenersyour-christmas-update-brought-to-you-by-the-studios/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[no]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of the movies you listed that came out as dvd screeners were already out as retail DVDs and DVDRips.

Still, gotta love award season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the movies you listed that came out as dvd screeners were already out as retail DVDs and DVDRips.</p>
<p>Still, gotta love award season.</p>
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		<title>By: surgio</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[surgio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people have been saying this for years... using p2p as FREE distribution channel for exposure and delivery.
they won&#039;t listen.  they never will.
i can&#039;t tell you how many indie films i&#039;ve downloaded that i would have never heard of at all.  the number is definately in the 100&#039;s.  and of course who can leave out the massive amounts of music that i&#039;ve heard on the internet that isn&#039;t played on mtv or mainstream radio, and i can&#039;t buy their cd at the local record store because they don&#039;t carry it.  call me a theif if you like, but can bet whenever they come to town i&#039;m one of the first in line waiting for tickets and i always buy merch. from their own vendors.  this is the best way i have found to cut out the middle man and give funds directly to the artists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people have been saying this for years&#8230; using p2p as FREE distribution channel for exposure and delivery.<br />
they won&#8217;t listen.  they never will.<br />
i can&#8217;t tell you how many indie films i&#8217;ve downloaded that i would have never heard of at all.  the number is definately in the 100&#8242;s.  and of course who can leave out the massive amounts of music that i&#8217;ve heard on the internet that isn&#8217;t played on mtv or mainstream radio, and i can&#8217;t buy their cd at the local record store because they don&#8217;t carry it.  call me a theif if you like, but can bet whenever they come to town i&#8217;m one of the first in line waiting for tickets and i always buy merch. from their own vendors.  this is the best way i have found to cut out the middle man and give funds directly to the artists.</p>
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